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Tuesday, January 16, 2018

New Release: Babylon the Great Hoax - What if it's not the end of the world?
Babylon the Great Hoax Kindle edition

Just as dozens of doomsday scenarios are being played out from Hollywood to alternate news media sites, C.W. Steinle dares to ask the seemingly backward question, "What if it's NOT the end of the world?" Are the converging signs prophesied in the Bible being sponsored for the benefit of one or more hidden actors?

After twenty years of end-times research, the author of "Come Out of Her People" steps up to challenge the mainstream assumption that the establishment of modern Israel has started the countdown to the end of the Age. But this popular interpretation of Bible prophecy has the potential of tagging the United States as the Great Harlot of Revelation. American Christians and the enemies of America alike are jumping on the bandwagon to condemn the United States. The author reveals his own journey from the assumption that America is Babylon to his current position that the United States has been skillfully framed to look like end-times Babylon for sinister purposes.

The ebook is being offered in skeleton form as the introduction to a series of essays. Exposing the possibility of a manufactured and theatrical end-of-the-world scenario calls for the immediate release of the author's recent discoveries. Perhaps there is still time to awaken American Christians before they submissively surrender to the coming disaster.

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"After years of warning my friends, family, and readers about America’s end time predicament, I found myself asking the question, “What if America isn’t the Great Harlot of Revelation?” Could America’s likeness to the end-times trading center be coincidental? Or does America fit Babylon’s description because someone wants Her to look that way? What if it’s not the end at all! And why should this proposition seem any more conspiratorial than to timidly resign to the certainty that the end of the Age has come? Of course Christians must never doubt that Jesus will eventually return in bodily form. Nor can it be denied that many signs of the times suggest that the “beginning of sorrows” has indeed begun.

Although it may be impossible to distinguish to hand of God from the contrivance of man in world affairs, the motive for powerful men to benefit from future foreknowledge is renowned. From the time of Mark Twain’s A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court novelists have proposed traveling back in time in order to profit from the prior knowledge of future events. I’m not suggesting that time travel is possible. But imagine the potential benefit of knowing in advance exactly what people expect will happen, and then guiding them along a path synchronized with those expectations."

Monday, May 22, 2017

Metamorphosis: A Multidimensional Approach to the Rapture - Coming to Denver in 2017

Join internationally known Bible prophecy experts at the 2017 Denver Prophecy Summit where I will be speaking on the promised redemption of the body, popularly called the rapture.
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Denver Prophecy Summit Israel & the Apocalypse Aug 4-6
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METAMORPHOSIS is an educational and inspirational lecture that includes paradigm shattering discoveries from the ancient texts that will breath new life into the rapture discussion. Be sure to attend this event in Denver or join me online. This is session has the potential to change your end time perspective as well as your daily walk with the Lord.

Metamorphosis 2017 Denver Prophecy Conference
Metamorphosis - A multidimensional approach to the rapture

Metamorphosis - A multidimensional approach to the rapture.

Has the body of the believer been redeemed? Will Christians be delivered from bodily form and enter the World of Soul's as taught by modern-day Pharisees? Will the heart automatically be changed when the soul enters it's eternal habitation? How does the Apostle Paul advise on these points? "Metamorphosis" will take a daring look through the eyes of the Apostle to behold the exceeding power of God to redeem the mortal body.

According to 1st Thessalonians 4:17 the dead and the living are changed just before meeting the Lord in the air. Paul described this transition from mortality to immortality prolifically in his epistles. Yet these passages on forms, schemes, and appearances are often underappreciated, either because of their Dualistic terminology or due to their seeming irrelevance to daily Christian life.

Just as Dimensional Theory advanced by modern science corroborates the biblical account of creation, thinking in extra-dimensional terms clarifies Paul's insights on man's material and spiritual existence. Unlike the progressive efforts of sanctification and edification, Paul acknowledged only two outward forms of existence; the natural and the spiritual. Studying the two bodily forms and the transformation between these two outward appearances effectively expands the mental picture of the rapture moment.

Instead of addressing, "When is the rapture?" Metamorphosis first answers the question, "What is the rapture?" Christians who have studied Paul's epistles recognize that the rapture mentioned in First Thessalonians Four is the change detailed in First Corinthians Fifteen. He only mentions the rapture once in passing, whereas, he describes the change at length. But often Western Protestants overlook the significance of this bodily transfiguration because they are focused on escaping "the things which are coming on earth." Their hope is trained on the avoidance of suffering rather than on the putting off of their mortal bodies. Those who are in Christ will escape the judgment at the Lord's return. In fact, they will be immune to all future harm once they have put on immortality.

The Holy Spirit bears witness and guarantees that all who are in Christ will be changed. This moment of change has come to be called "the rapture." But Paul used a word which is only similar to "rapture" in his first letter to the Thessalonians. The Redemption of the Body is the term Paul used in many of his other writings, and "redemption" is a better expression for the word actually used in 1st Thessalonians 4:17.

The Greek source-text is irrefutable. Every letter of every Greek word in Verse 17 has been transcribed without textual variation from the time of the second century papyri. How is it that some Protestants expect to be completely delivered from the Tribulation while others expect to go all the way through the Tribulation? Are they reading the same Bible? Well, not exactly. A closer look at the ancient texts reveals that modern English Bible translations define the rapture inaccurately.

What's in a word? Although a word similar to "rapture" is found in the original manuscripts, harpadzo is not the word used in 1st Thessalonians 4:17. Harpagae, not harpadzo, is the Greek stem. Harpagae is the word found in the source-text of every English Bible, from the King James to the modern paraphrased editions.

Harpagae and harpadzo are not interchangeable! Old and Modern English idioms have, likewise, inadvertently obscured the western view of the rapture. Employing the correct lexical definitions of the words used in verse 4:17 restores the English translation to its original meaning.

Defining the rapture moment is not limited to the information provided by Paul to the Thessalonians. The Apostle was visualizing and commenting on this mysterious moment throughout his epistles. "Metamorphosis" develops a broader understanding of the rapture by harmonizing these rapture related verses from Paul's other New Testament writings.

In 1st Corinthians 15, Paul explained this mystery as a death-and-resurrection event. This destructive and reconstructive process was implied by harpagae in the original-language rapture narrative.

Metamorphosis shifts the focus from the macroscopic, all-encompassing rapture, to the microscopic view: the Lord's descending, the resurrection, the rapture, and the meeting. Although the living and the resurrected dead are changed at the same time, Paul's assertion that the dead must rise first is crucial for positively locating the rapture on the end-times timeline.

Learn why Paul considered God's power to manipulate the fabric of existence to be essential for our knowledge of God. Understand why Christ must subdue our lowly bodies; and, why Paul admonished those saved by grace to "Awake to righteousness, and do not sin."

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Israel & the Apocalypse Aug 4-6

Thursday, May 11, 2017

Who is Israel in End Times Bible Prophecy? Attend or view the 2017 Denver Prophecy Summit

This is the real "safe zone" where end times views will be presented and discussed with joy and openness in order to build up the body of Christ as the Day approaches. Watch the full round-table discussion to get a feel for the encouraging tone and chemistry of the speakers. (link at the bottom of this post)
Aug 4-6th is the Denver Prophecy Summit first annual conference in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. This year's topic is: Israel and the Apocalypse: Speakers include:
Doug Krieger
John Haller
Doug Woodward
Chad Schafer
Doug Hamp
Norm Franz
Chris Steinle
and more!

Doug Krieger shares an amazing comparison between Replacement Theology, Dispensationalism, and the Commonwealth of Israel. Doug analyzes the dynamics of "distinction" and "separation." While maintaining the One New Man and Israel at the end of the age.

John Haller will discuss the Restoration of Modern Israel, "The wise who will understand." And commentary along the lines of his viral Weekly Prophecy Update.

Doug Woodward will discuss "The Next Great War in the Middle East" which Doug believes to be the Gog Magog War. Doug explains his position and how his predictions compare to the Islamic Antichrist Theory, Psalms 83, Armageddon and the new "GAP" theory. Doug will also offer an explanation why most of the world is standing against Israel.

Chad Schafer and Doug Krieger look at "who is Israel?" and what God has been doing over the last 2,000 years with the House of Israel and House of Judah. Schafer and Krieger will examine often overlooked Old Testament prophecies and identify current events fulfilling Bible prophecies today.

Doug Hamp will speak on "Reclaiming the Rapture." Pastor Hamp will demonstrate that the Gathering is mentioned over 50 times in the Old Testament and that the identity of the rapture and the events around the rapture have been misappropriated by mainstream theologians.

Norm Franz will present a prophetic panorama covering the last 100 years, and moving forward, examining the transitioning of Global Orders leading up to the rule of Antichrist. This will be a powerful report by an expert in finance, politics, and world affairs which will of course focus on Israel.

Chris Steinle will discuss the Authority Question as it relates to Israel, God's government, and the law and lawlessness. Steinle will also examine the rapture process in multidimensional terms that will draw us closer to God and attempt to unfold the mystery of glorification.

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Thursday, May 4, 2017

Israel & the Apocalypse, the focus of the 2017 Denver Prophecy Summit

1st Annual Denver Prophecy Summit

This is the 2017 prophecy conference you don't want to miss - Online or in person.

2017 Denver Prophecy Summit in 90 second video.

Hear cutting edge Bible prophecy discoveries as we build one another up in our most holy faith. Who is the Israel that will be saved? Should the church support the Nation of Israel? What comes next in the apocalypse of end times event? Babylon? NWO? War?

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Israel & The Apocalyspe - Round Table Discussion on the Awakening Report

Get to know some of the speakers and their dynamics in working together to present Bible prophecy in a setting of truth and love. Streamed live on May 2, 2017
Register here: Aug 4-6th is the Denver Prophecy Summit first annual conference in Wheat Ridge, Colorado. This year's topic is: Israel and the Apocalypse: Speakers include:
Doug Krieger, John Haller, Chris Steinle, Doug Woodward, Chad Schafer, Doug Hamp, Norm Franz
and more...!

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Sunday, October 16, 2016

Protestants Running to Orthodoxy for Legal Cover

The Mystical and Traditional Schools 

Jean Tauler

Even prior to Jan Hus, the German Mystics were experiencing the presence of God through a personal relationship born out of repentance, and the denial of self. Not the self flagellation practiced by some monks, but the acknowledgment that man's existence is "for Him, and from Him, and to Him." Their connection with God was found, not in church sacraments, but in a direct relationship through the person of Jesus Christ. Unlike Ignatius, who wrote, "where the bishop is, there is the church;" they believed the church was "where ever two or three are gathered together in [His] name," even in a tiny house church (home fellowship)!

The Protection of the Church by the State

Stylized Russian and Byzantine Double Eagles

The Institutionalized Church

According to Orthodox Wiki: "The double-headed eagle is the most recognizable symbol of Orthodoxy today (other than the cross) and was the official state symbol of the late Byzantine Empire, symbolising the unity between the Byzantine Orthodox Church and State, which was governed by the principle of Symphonia or Synallelia, that is, a "symphony" between the civil and the ecclesiastical functions of Christian society." emphasis added <>

But ultimately, the State/Church is spiritually and fundamentally opposed to freedom of religion. "Russian President Vladimir Putin signed legislation this week that severely restricts freedom of religion by prohibiting any religious speech or evangelization outside of places of worship. “This new situation resembles the Soviet Union in 1929. ... “Practically speaking, we are back in the same situation." <>

The Anglican Solution to the Separation of Church and State

The Anglican Church began as a Protestant Movement. But in the early 1800's, primarily due to legal issues, the "Tractarians" began to revert to Catholicism - minus the worship of Mary.
At that time, the government of England was trying to control the liturgy of the church. The Oxford Movement argued that the church had autonomous authority, asserting that its authority was based on the principle of Apostolic Succession.  This succession, by way of the "root" of St. Peter, logically led to the Anglicans reuniting with the Roman Catholic Church - considering themselves to be a "branch" of the Mother Church.

It is sad that the Tractarians were reluctant to profess that their authority to govern the affairs of the church was spiritual in nature - proceeding from God's supernatural appointment of Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors. . . (Ephesians 4:11)  Instead, the Anglicans ran for the cover to the Roman system and embraced many of the Catholic practices. In fact, several of the leaders of the Oxford Movement, like John Newman, forsook the teachings of the Reformers altogether and became Catholic priests - even Bishops.

John Henry Newman by Sir John Everett Millais

Saturday, October 15, 2016

Teach the Word - Not the Gospel of the Fathers: Baptism

Water Baptism

Nicolas Poussin [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.  Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.  Matthew 28:18-20
These verses, known as the Great Commission, instructed the Disciples to baptize and teach their converts.  In obedience to this directive, a believer should submit to water baptism as soon as possible after placing faith in Christ.  The Bible contains hundreds of verses relating salvation to faith and belief, indicating that salvation is obtained by placing faith in Christ.  There are only a few verses that associate salvation with water baptism.  Water baptism is, however, the most widely held method of making a public profession of faith in Christ.  Furthermore, orthodox churches have traditionally associated baptism with the forgiveness of sins.
From the time of the second century until today churches have held differing beliefs about the timing and effects of water baptism.  Although “households” believed and were baptized, the baptism of infants was not documented in the Bible.   But church history indicates that some Christians were beginning to baptize their babies during the first few centuries.  On the other hand, during the third and fourth centuries many people practiced ‘death-bed’ baptism.  They believed that only pre-baptismal sins were removed at the time of water baptism.  Therefore, they put baptism off until the last moment so that they might enter heaven in their purest state.  The deathbed baptism theory was based on the assumption that baptism, rather than faith in Jesus’ sacrifice, was the agent which removes sin.
Most often the Bible indicates the order of our conversion experience as “repent and be baptized”.  The following section of scripture emphasizes the importance of oral confession prior to water baptism.  In this narrative, Philip had just explained how Jesus fulfilled the prophecies about the Christ found in Isaiah 53.
Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him.  Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, "See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?"  Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."  So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.  Acts 8:36-38
It would appear from Philip's statement that this baptism depended upon the eunuch's belief that Jesus was indeed the Christ, the Son of God.  Water baptism was identified from the time of John the Baptist as an act which accompanies repentance.  When infants undergo ritual baptism they are incapable of contemplating repentance.  Most churches which practice infant baptism also acknowledge the need for a confirmation at the age of accountability.  This system presumes that the child will grow to understand the lost state of their soul and will embrace Jesus as their savior.  But the conviction of sins by the Holy Spirit cannot be induced by man - it is a sovereign act of God.
God has granted free will to every person and each soul will be judged for their own life.  A child’s free will is never possessed by its parents.  Parents cannot pass salvation down to their heirs.  That is why it is said, “God doesn’t have any grandchildren”.  Parents can dedicate their children to the Lord after the model of Hannah with Samuel.  But God only knows whether they will respond to the cross and be saved.
Many adult Christians have been blessed by making their own declaration of faith in Christ during a second baptism, although we have no direct biblical mandate that would require a person to be baptized into Christ more than once in their lifetime.  Nevertheless, we do find a clear account of salvation prior to water baptism in the salvation of Cornelius.  After responding to Peter’s preaching, Cornelius and the people gathered at his house were then baptized after the fact.
“Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”  Acts 10:47 - [end excerpt from Foundations of the Faith]

My Personal Experience

I was baptized in water as an adult, thinking that I was joining the body of Christ. At the time of this first baptism, I had know idea who Jesus was, or that I was a sinner. One day, while I was driving on a road trip and listening to someone's personal testimony, I believed upon Jesus Christ for salvation. Immediately I was changed, filled with the Holy Spirit - and I knew that my sins were forgiven. About a year later I was baptized in water in obedience to Christ and as a public confession of my faith. NEITHER of these baptisms saved me nor accomplished any further forgiveness of my sins beyond the forgiveness had I received when I believed on the finished work of Jesus Christ.


The Theological Problem with Infant Baptism


Even Anglicans acknowledge that infant baptism is sign rather than an act of salvation, and yet they honor it as a tradition.


Articles of Religion (39 Articles)
As established by the Bishops, the Clergy, and the Laity of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America, in Convention, on the twelfth day of September, in the Year of our Lord, 1801.

XXVII. Of Baptism.
"Baptism is not only a sign of profession, and mark of difference, whereby Christian men are discerned from others that be not christened, but it is also a sign of Regeneration or New-Birth, whereby, as by an instrument, they that receive Baptism rightly are grafted into the Church; the promises of the forgiveness of sin, and of our adoption to be the sons of God by the Holy Ghost, are visibly signed and sealed, Faith is confirmed, and Grace increased by virtue of prayer unto God.

The Baptism of young Children is in any wise to be retained in the Church, as most agreeable with the institution of Christ."

The question remains, where did Christ "institute" the baptism of children in the Bible? Show us the verse!


Infant baptism remains the right of each parent. But the problem raised by the practice is, "How is one saved from their sins?" By personal faith, or by ritual? And shouldn't the same discernment of the body and blood by required at baptism as it is at the sacrament of Eucharist? And is there a danger that the infant, once baptized, might neglect the importance of personal faith?

Can the teachings leading to confirmation take the place of the convicting power of the Holy Spirit in revealing the wrath of God from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men? And mightn't this quandary be a contributing cause of the "nominal church?"

Return to Tradition

Most likely because of the "diversity" of doctrine in today's Protestant churches, some ministers are returning to the traditions of the Early Church Fathers, instead of remaining steadfast in the teachings of the Apostles. They are teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. But heretical church leaders abounded even before the New Testament was written. In fact, Paul, Peter, John, James, and Jude had to address the errors within the church as they were writing their epistles.

Teach the Word - Not the Gospel of the Fathers

"As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding in it with thanksgiving.

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power." Colossians 2:6-10

Wednesday, June 8, 2016

The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men

Like many other Christians, I used to skim past Genesis 6:4

"There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown."

But after reading the Book of Enoch and seeing the undeniable evidence of giants, giant-sized buildings, and advanced prediluvian technology, I was forced to reconsider the intermarriage of the angelic beings with humans.  Suddenly, I realized that Genesis 6:4  is one of the most FAITH BUILDING verses in the Bible.

Genesis 6:4 establishes, in the opening chapters of today's canon of Scripture, the PRECEPT of EXTRA-PHYSICAL FERTILIZATION.  Scientists and Bible scholars are beginning to realize the presence (and possible interaction with) hyper-dimensional beings.  This is precisely the interaction depicted in the account of the "sons of God."

Furthermore,  the acceptance of, and belief in, extra-physical fertilization is a prerequisite for faith in the VIRGIN BIRTH of Jesus Christ - THE Son of God.  But instead of being conceived by inferior angels, Jesus was the Son of the Most High, conceived by the Holy Spirit.

The sons of God are an ANTITYPE of Christ.  The Book of Jude, which quotes from the Book of Enoch, states; "And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day."

But Jesus left His domain in heaven in obedience to the WILL OF THE FATHER. "For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me." - John 17:8

Likewise, because He was sent by the Father, Jesus returned to His proper abode at the right hand of the Father in heaven.  "I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father." - John 16:28

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." - John 3:16,17

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Wednesday, May 25, 2016

How Many Christians Believe in Pre-Trib?

The Pew Foundation reported in 2010 that there were roughly 2.2 billion Christians worldwide.  In 2016, Wikipedia calculates there are approximately 2.6 billion Christians - not counting the growing Chinese and Middle-Eastern churches, making 3 or 3 1/2 billion professing Christians a more realistic number.  There are roughly 650 million Christians who belong to Christian denominations teaching that the rapture will occur before the time of great tribulation.  These denominations are made up of primarily of cessational Baptists, charismatic Assemblies of God, and a number of smaller Jesus Movement churches.  Using the most conservative figure of 2 1/2 billion Christians worldwide, as many as 1/4 of today's Christians believe in a pre-tribulation rapture - or about 25%.

Does the Bible promise a Great Escape from the Great Tribulation? The majority of today's Christians; Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, and Reformed, expect the rapture at Christ's Second Coming. And 99% of the Christians who have lived over the past 2,000 years have believed in a post-tribulation rapture. Discover what the Bible clearly states in the original language. Learn how the Restoration Movement of the 19th century influenced the theology of the British Isles. See the Thessalonian prophecies through the eyes of St. Paul to uncover the mystery behind his eschatology. Find the key to Paul's end-time timeline based on the last enemy of Christ found in the fifteenth chapter of 1st Corinthians. Examine the verses and arguments used by pre-tribulation proponents in this no-stone-left-un-turned exposé. Includes four charts, Greek language study, and 20 illustrations.

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Friday, May 20, 2016

1st Thessalonians Four contradictions the Pre-Trib theory.

One of the first rules of Bible interpretations is "The Obvious Meaning is the Obvious Meaning".  That's why someone reading the Bible on their own can easily see that adultery, homosexuality, and other sexual perversions are all sins.  People have to be taught to see something else.
Since my childhood - when I have read 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, I have always assumed that both Epistles were talking about the same Day of the Lord, and the same Gathering.  And almost all Christians (up until the nineteenth century) have thought the same thing.  That's the obvious meaning when people read the Bible on their own.
Paul was a strong believer in order and orderliness.  So his end-times verses contain a number of conditional, "This" can't happen until "that," statements.
·         In 1st Thessalonians Four, Paul says the Lord's Coming can't happen until the resurrection of dead.
·         In 2nd Thessalonians Two, the Lord's Coming can't happen until the appearing of the Man of Sin and the Apostasy.
Anyone studying end-times prophecy is familiar with these conditional statements.
Now let's look at another conditional statement in 1st Corinthians Fifteen.  Here, Paul starts off with the resurrection of Jesus.  But then he transitions to the time of the end - and begins to discuss the general resurrection of the dead.  This is also the section of Scripture where Paul says "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" - obviously referring to the rapture.
Paul's conditional statement here in 1st Corinthians is actually a quote from Psalms 110.  Speaking of Jesus, Paul says "He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet."  And then Paul adds, "The last enemy that will be destroyed is death."  Jesus had personally already overcome death.  Paul associates the death which is this last enemy - with the general resurrection of the dead.
Peter also made a conditional statement concerning Jesus' return in Act Three Verse 21, where he says that "Jesus must remain in heaven until the time of restoration of all things."

Now let's go back to Thessalonians.  Watch what happens.
In 1st Thessalonians Four, since Jesus must sit at the Father's right hand until His last enemy - death - is subdued, He can't descend from heaven until the dead are raised.  Christ's coming or descending cannot precede the resurrection of "those who have fallen asleep."
In 2nd Thessalonians Two, Paul mentions two more enemies and these are straight out of Daniel Chapter 12.  Because neither one of these are the last enemy, these two problems must be resolved even before the resurrection of the dead.  You could say that these are the next-to-the-last enemies." So "that Day" and the Gathering cannot happen until the Man of Sin is revealed and the Falling away come first.
Paul had evidentially already explained this order of Christ's enemies during a previous visit.  Probably much the same as he had written about it to the Corinthians.  Paul expected that just reminding them of the conversation would put an end to the rumors that "that Day" had already come.
But the real death blow to the Pre-tribulation rapture theory is right there in 1st Thessalonians Chapter Four.  Jesus must remain in heaven until the time of restoration of ALL things.  Jesus is either seated in heaven, or He's descending from heaven.  First Thessalonians Four says He's "descending from heaven."  Jesus' coming and descending from heaven is a technical indicator - signaling that all of Jesus' enemies have been made His footstool. Paul would never write about Jesus coming and descending from heaven unless he was referring to the actual Second Coming of Christ.  And Jesus must remain in heaven until the restoration of all things, not until the beginning of the tribulation.
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It's not necessary to measure how far Jesus' feet came to touching the ground before He is met be the saints.  The fact that, in 1st Thessalonians Four, Jesus no longer remains seated in heaven is all we need to know.  The dead are raised and the restoration of all things has come. Jesus' descending accompanied by great fanfare and the resurrection of the death all point to a rapture during the Second Coming of Christ.  This is the obvious meaning.

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Sunday, May 15, 2016

Why Most Christians Believe in a Post Tribulation Rapture - Interview

Listen and share with your friends and ministers. Trunews interview with Christian author C.W. Steinle and new book, "Why Most Christians Believe in a Post-Tribulation Rapture." Steinle reveals the statistical minority of pre-trib, and why the pre-trib theory opposes the obvious meaning of the Scriptures. Learn why St. Paul would never suggest that Jesus would leave the Father's right hand and descend before all of His enemies had been made His footstool. This interview should bring an official end to the pre-tribulation rapture theory.

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